YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. Not sure why anyone is defending her. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. It seems so, according to you. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. What definition? Follow him on Twitter @KurtBresswein. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? False. Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. 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The Duke of York is set to lose 250,000-a-year in funding from the King as part of a shake-up of private royal finances and has had to sell off assets including a 19million ski chalet to cover the costs of settling the sex scandal case with Virginia Roberts Giuffre - a victim of Jeffrey Epstein. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Some people are just monsters. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. I dont think so. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in, Please refresh your browser to be logged in, Isabel Oakeshott terminates interview after clashing with presenter over Hancock leak. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. The feminist in me is, like, hell yeah!: Will men take the male contraceptive pill? 2 Lehigh Valley murder cases explored this week on TV Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. It makes me sick. He lived in 1910, at address, Connecticut. Now, there are suggestions the family's solution to Andrew potentially losing his home could be to move him into the 'nest egg' Fergie purchased as an investment for their daughters, Princess Beatrice, 34, and Princess Eugenie, 32. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. Andrew Katrinak Obituary - Death Notice and Service Information Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. Glenn Myers, 50, who stabled Rorrer's horses in Tyro, said she was a loving horsewoman and mother. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Phone records dont lie.) Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Over the years, she has been charged with breaking and entering, intoxication, cruelty to animals and larceny in Davidson, Randolph, Gaston, Anson and Forsyth counties, said Detective Lt. Tony Roberson of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. WoW! Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! Why? None. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. Required fields are marked *. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. When the cheerleading coach broke the news to Katrina Kohel that she was the only one left on the cheer squad, Kohel was determined to compete anyway. She had money put aside. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group, 'I felt different to the rest of my family - and my mum felt the same': Prince Harry opens up on his 'broken home' upbringing saying parents rowing in front of children 'is not a good idea' - but FAILS to mention William once in 90min toxic trauma chat, DONALD J TRUMP: The world has finally woken to the truth about the Wuhan virus. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. At 4 a.m. Wednesday morning, several dozen of Rorrer's relatives and friends surrounded the courthouse, said Capt. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. Your comment will be posted to MailOnline as usual. Andrew Tates legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. And Patricia did live in another state. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. (We didnt get into the specifics.). However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. So, lets take your response one step at a time. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Andrew Tate's team claims he has a 'dark spot, most likely a tumour' Rorrer called Myers collect from the jail Tuesday afternoon. She had a suitcase packed, Devine said. You have permission to edit this article. He helped her take horses to day care centers, where she would take photographs of children with the horses. He retired as a general foreman at Bethlehem Steel in 1981 after 30 years of employment. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. More Local News to Love Start today for 50% off Expires 3/6/23, Kurt Bresswein | For lehighvalleylive.com, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots. Whatever the truth is. Prosecutor pounds away. What will the next pandemic be? The two kept in touch by telephone, and in 1991, Rorrer briefly sought refuge at Katrinak's home in Catasauqua after being assaulted by another boyfriend. Hair we go. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. They added that doctors in Romania and Dubai wrote medical documents which confirmed he has a lesion on his upper right lung, which could be a sign a tumour has developed. Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. The charges: two counts of kidnapping and two counts of murder. What a lame article. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. The Free Patricia Rorrer page points to a sliver of a fingernail found at the murder site that didnt come from either Patricia or Joann. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. A-list trainer shares the ultimate do's and don'ts of workout etiquette - revealing why you should NEVER use a metal water bottle, Trump collaborates with January 6 prison choir in release of new single 'Justice for All' - which dropped ahead of his CPAC appearance, King Charles will offer Prince Harry and Meghan a Buckingham Palace apartment when they visit UK after kicking them out of Frogmore Cottage. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Hoist by my own petard! SHAME ON THEM. I thought the same. (A good point. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions. Their bodies were found nearly four months later. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? All Rights Reserved. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. ``Her lawyer said anything we say could be used against her,' Chambers said late Tuesday night. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! They also revealed that the Duke had pleaded with the King for an increased Royal responsibility as he feels 'he deserves to still be treated like a senior royal'. All rights reserved (About Us). Prince Andrew has 'offered to manage prestigious Royal estates' The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Some volunteered their own time for this duty, Hege said. M.L. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. The bodies were nearby, said state police Capt. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. Andrew Tate 's legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. Keep up your delusions. you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. They are a joke. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. Username. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. If I see anything that offers a differing opinion or is inaccurate, I think its entirely fair I should say my piece. Teresa Katrinak is 56 years old and was born on 06/29/1966. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? Sorry not sorry. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? "Andrew was diagnosed with a serious medical condition in December 2022 whilst he was in Dubai," his representative told The Sun Online. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. On December 12, 1994, Joann answered a phone call from a woman shed never met, Patricia Rorrer, her husbands onetime girlfriend. Do not sell or share my personal information. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? However, Romanian officials have refused the request, saying he can be attended to in Romania. He said his heart drops a couple of feet every time it rings. Name. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation.